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Not allowed to Smoke

Smoking ban intrudes on students' lives

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Published: Tuesday, January 12, 2010

Updated: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 23:01

Are you a smoker used to grabbing a quick fix as you walk the scenic route from building to building between classes? Well, maybe not for long.  Many public universities are considering a smoking ban, and Northern Kentucky University may consider such a policy in its future.


This would prohibit smoking from any place on campus, including outdoor locations. I think this is a ridiculous, behavior-modifying policy that needs to be put out before it even comes into consideration. 


Being a non-smoker, I am in favor of NKU’s current smoking policy. It keeps those of us who do not want to be exposed to smoke healthy, while still allowing those who choose to indulge to get their fix. If someone is unsatisfied with a person’s decision to light up outside of a designated smoking area, they are free to ask them to move. Most likely, the person smoking will oblige.


However, this possible new smoking ban would fully eradicate all smoke from anywhere on campus. This is an outright infringement on personal freedoms and I feel universities may exploit it as an attempt to influence students’ and faculty members’ lifestyles.


Nobody wants to inhale second-hand smoke; that’s why we have specific, designated areas for students and faculty to smoke freely if they choose to do so. There is nothing wrong with our current policy — as long as it is enforced — and I see no need to ban smoking from a college campus all-together.


I foresee many negative ramifications of this policy, should it come to be. I fear that a smoking ban would result in more backed up parking lots as students rush to their cars to puff away before class. It also seems that the policy would force students who smoke to unnecessarily leave the relative safety of campus to partake in a legal act.


My main concern, however, is the motivations behind these types of bans — Personally, I’m still scratching my head. So, if you smoke, you can’t smoke inside, you can’t smoke outside; Where do you smoke? I cannot see the concern for public safety and health being a logical reason for this policy, so what does that leave us with?


The proposal of such a policy leads me to believe that universities that enforce a no-smoking policy are more concerned with shaping students’ behaviors rather than protecting their safety.  Those colleges are just pushing themselves a little too far into the lives of its attendees.  We are adults  capable of making our own decisions and we are not in need of a parental figure. 


If the current smoking policy isn’t working — I think it is — then they should work on more consistent and efficient enforcement. I would hate to see a full-blown smoking ban effected. This a free campus —  this is our campus. 

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14 comments

bishy2466
Mon Apr 26 2010 12:30
This is and enfringement on freedom. As a Smoker. I don't ever smoke by doors or restaurants or around people whom don't wish to be smoked by. If you are walking along a sidewalk, you should be allowed to smoke. Its all about personal preference. Are you going to tell a person with obesity who is addicted to food they aren't allowed to eat any more unhealthy foods in public places and the only thing you can provide them with is diet pills? That is rediculous, correct? Well it is the exact same thing. Smoking in open air isn't hurting anyone. Now if every single Smoker blew smoke into Non Smokers faces then I could see the health concern. But all in all, this is an enfringment on personal rights and decisions.
Tyranny oftheMajority
Tue Mar 16 2010 12:01
Okay, seriously, either you should ban SMOKERS from campus (i.e. deny entry to people who smoke, period) or forget about a campus-wide smoking ban. If you want to be inclusive of both smokers and non-smokers, then you should (i.e. must) provide "safe havens" of some sort for the smokers to feel accommodated. Regardless of whether or not ETS is an indoor health risk, the outdoor risk of ETS cannot be more than negligible unless one is blowing the smoke directly into another's inhalation. Please, people, quit pretending an outdoor smoking ban is anything but aesthetic...

I wish the smokers on all of these campuses (etc.) would rally weekly and gather for "protest smokes" to show these administrators and student government bodies that we/they will not stand for this kind of mistreatment any more. Tyranny of the majority has returned; this is a sad state...

Colleen
Sat Feb 6 2010 12:13
@ "Your Name" and " vrgilk"

You're both ridiculous. It's not even worth debating scholarly research with either of you.

Osama Bin Landen
Thu Jan 14 2010 19:17
Just me but the whole seeing everything third person at NKU smoking on campus kinda gives it a bad look... Makes it look like Cracker Jack University. Then again NKU does that to itself without the smoking.
Sad
Thu Jan 14 2010 19:16
I LOVE HOW THE SMOKING ISSUE IS THE ONLY THING STUDENTS HERE REALLY CARES ABOUT.
CoCo
Thu Jan 14 2010 19:09
Smoking is bad.
virgilk
Wed Jan 13 2010 13:01
If we are subjected to a lie, no matter how ridiculous, 24/7 it won't be long before the general public will take that lie for the truth. Edwin Bernays used that fact back in the 40's to become the highest paid Advertising Agent in history. It is still being used today. As long as we have people willing to subjugate others for profit it will never end. All they need are groups of people who are easily fooled to do their dirty work for them.
Grants (Money) have been used to buy so-called Experts to spread this Fraud of SHS to our Councils/Legislators who are ignorant of the facts. Many know the facts but the Grant money is too good to refuse. After over 10 years of research I have at least 280 studies and 600 in depth reports to attest to the fraud that SHS/ETS kills. If this is true, and it is, there is no reason for business killing Smoking Bans, campus smoking bans or targeted taxes against smokers.
vrgilk
Wed Jan 13 2010 12:55
Since everyone over 30 has been raised around SHS/ETS,and SHS/ETS IS SUPPOSED TO BE SO DEADLY, why are they the longest living of all generations? Why, since smoking has dropped from 54% to 20%, are all the diseases supposedly caused by smoking, on the rise every year? California has the oldest smoking ban and their Asthma rate is 16% and Kentucky has only a 6% rate of Asthma with the highest rate of Smoking? Why do Anti's still say SHS/ETS KILLS, when the EPA Report they base their statements on was found to be a FRAUD by Federal Judge Osteen and two Congressional Committees? Why, did the longest/largest studies by the ACS and the WHO find SHS/ETS had no connection to Cancer or Heart Disease? Why are there more than 250 other studies with the same findings?

Why can't the Anti-smokers find or admit to any of these studies?
Could it be because of the Billions to be made from the sale of Smoking Cessation Products, when their own studies show that quitting Cold Turkey is more effective?
Could it be because Profit is more important to them than Health?
Clearly SHS/ETS is not the Health threat they make it out to be.
So, why are Smokers being treated like Second Class Citizens? This smells like it's all about smell and discrimination caused by Greed.

Your name
Wed Jan 13 2010 11:56
Colleen, these heart attack admissions studies have all been exposed for the junk science that they are. Dr. Michael Siegel, Professor with Boston University, School of Public Health. His blog yesterday: More Shoddy Science on Smoking Bans and Heart Attacks: Study from Switzerland Has No Comparison Group and Results Don't Support Conclusion. Today's: Published Study Finds No Effect of Smoking Ban on Heart Attacks in Tuscany, Italy in First Year After Ban. Don't believe all the propaganda the Tobacco Control cult pushes. They've got a LOT of money involved. Maybe you should ask Ellen Hahn of the University of Kentucky how many millions SHE got from the "non" profit foundation with 42,343,491 shares of Johnson & Johnson stock (J&J sells Nicorette, Nicoderm, Commit).

Come on guys. Do some research. Our liberties are being stolen for profit. Private property rights are trampled. At least research the facts. Start with following the money.

Colleen
Wed Jan 13 2010 10:54
To follow up with Wes, it also seems that you don't read other articles in your own paper. In the News article on smoking, which cites studies that show hospital admissions for certain smoking related conditions go down 30% in areas that enact smoking bans. But, I'm sure you're right, Heather, "I cannot see the concern for public safety and health being a logical reason for this policy" either.

The fact that this sort of logic (or, rather, lack of logic) and brazen infringement upon public health rights takes place a school where Nursing and Health professions are supposed to be priorities is shameful.

Saul
Wed Jan 13 2010 10:25
Non-smokers don't care if I smoke them because they have no smell or second-hand smoke. Just a water vapor. So no, no one cares if I get my nicotine in public places as long as they aren't effected in any way.
Melissa Townsend
Wed Jan 13 2010 10:21
Saul, I don't know how you can possibly smoke them 'anywhere.' Why wouldn't non smokers care if you smoked e-cigs?
Saul
Wed Jan 13 2010 09:56
This whole issue is moot to those smokers on campus who smoke whitecloudecigoutlet.com. Non-smokers don't care when I smoke e-cigs, and I can pretty much smoke them anywhere.
Wes Crout
Wed Jan 13 2010 04:55
HW: "If someone is unsatisfied with a person’s decision to light up outside of a designated smoking area, they are free to ask them to move. Most likely, the person smoking will oblige."

Apparently you've never tried this. Why would you think they will "most likely" oblige?

HW: "This is an outright infringement on personal freedoms and I feel universities may exploit it as an attempt to influence students’ and faculty members’ lifestyles."

That's exactly the point. Influence the lifestyles of some due to the outright health infringement it imposes on others. Are you also willing to fight for those who might like to imbibe between classes? I mean, someone's drinking doesn't increase my chances at getting liver cancer. Why are we a dry campus? Like you say, we are all adults, capable of making our own decisions.

Your attempts to make this an issue of freedom ignores the freedom it takes from others if you let the smoking rules stand as is. You say let people smoke in designated areas, and if some smokers don't abide then those affected could ask them to stop. Sure, but in doing so they are then forced to endure more smoke while they try to engage in a conversation with the already inconsiderate smoker.

Sounds like you've not really thought your argument through very well.







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